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'''This is Keith's opinions on Brad's next book.'''


Keep pushing the boundaries between good ideas and bad. The purpose of your book is a non-fiction back of the envelope proof.
Keep pushing the boundaries between good ideas and bad. The purpose of the Bible is a non-fiction back of the envelope proof.


''Leaving the planet'' has new data and stories, better pictures and better editing, but it is not a "proof."
''Leaving the planet'' has new data and stories, better pictures and better editing, but it is not a proof.
 
Anyone who goes to the trouble to read such a book will want a proof. You can make such a book readable by everyone and I am doing it with my book.


Making your book 2x better will make you sell 4x more copies. I meet so many geeks who know about the space elevator who would read your book. I think they could read it as-is, and your primary challenge might be marketing, but you should make a book so good that friends demand their friends read it, and one that Oprah could read. Your 2003 book is very close to that level!
Making your book 2x better will make you sell 4x more copies. I meet so many geeks who know about the space elevator who would read your book. I think they could read it as-is, and your primary challenge might be marketing, but you should make a book so good that friends demand their friends read it, and one that Oprah could read. Your 2003 book is very close to that level!
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== Nontechnical suggestions ==
== Nontechnical suggestions ==
''''I believe these are important for market success'''
''''I believe these are important for market success'''
Anyone who goes to the trouble to read such a book will want a proof. It needs things like adaptic optics. You can make such a book readable by everyone and I am doing it with my book.


Your 2003 book is almost there, but it sometimes has too much math inline:
Your 2003 book is almost there, but it sometimes has too much math inline:
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'''I'm not the expert, but these are my considered opinions'''
'''I'm not the expert, but these are my considered opinions'''


I propose a 100 ton daily payload elevator. 10 tons a day is not worth it. You might not understand it now, but you will! How much does the elevator in your building support? Figure out costs for 1 ton, 10 ton daily and 100 ton daily. Focus on powers of 10: 1, 10, 100.
I propose a 100 ton daily payload elevator. 10 tons a day is not worth it. Focus on powers of 10: 1, 10, 100.
 
:Agreed though we go through the same basic steps for all sizes so specifying the size will be more a focus of market - which also needs to be defined.'''
 
We need up and down ribbons. It will be built that way whether you put it there or someone else does. :-) You go on about how we could throw away climbers, and that is a bad idea. A lot of your examining of why bad ideas won't work is good, but this is not one of them. Somewhere early, you need to build bi-directional into the designs.
 
:My thought on throwing away climbers is only before the second is built and throwing away means storing them in GEO for future use.  Nothing we send up should be wasted.
 
:: We should build the two ribbons in parallel. We could even build 3 in case one of them doesn't make it.
 
You need to solve the 200 mph situation. What about a big spool? We need a solution for humans, even if it is rockets.


:The speed is not a real limit only a zero rsk statement of what can be done now.
We should build the two ribbons 100% in parallel. We could even build 3 in case one of them doesn't make it.


What about the space station and the moon station? Also, we need something that takes 1 week to go to Mars.
You need to solve the 200 mph situation, or have a solution for humans.


:How about one month to Mars for starters?  That one I have already run the numbers on.
What about the space station and the moon station? Also, we need something that takes 1 week to 1 month to go to Mars.


You need to think about whether we really need atoms from other asteroids in the form of knives. Are we really running out of atoms here? That strikes me as one of the things people might look back on in 20 years and laugh that we'd bother to get iron from random places. How about we just put the existing iron to better use? With carbon nanotubes replacing steel, that will free up lots of iron.
You need to think about whether we really need atoms from other asteroids in the form of knives. Are we really running out of atoms here? With carbon nanotubes replacing steel, that will free up lots of iron.


You need something near land, a big electricity grid, etc. Pick as close to land as possible. Location, location, location.
You need something near land, a big electricity grid, etc. Pick as close to land as possible.


Some of these things are hard to get right. I might say no laser power beaming to earth, but it would provide energy for the moonbase. It might end up being the reverse. Don't go to deep on things that aren't core to your case.
Some of these things are hard to get right. I might say no laser power beaming to earth, but it would provide energy for the moonbase. It might end up being the reverse. Don't go to deep on things that aren't core to your case.

Revision as of 01:53, 22 June 2008

FreeFormats This is Keith's opinions on Brad's next book.

Keep pushing the boundaries between good ideas and bad. The purpose of the Bible is a non-fiction back of the envelope proof.

Leaving the planet has new data and stories, better pictures and better editing, but it is not a proof.

Making your book 2x better will make you sell 4x more copies. I meet so many geeks who know about the space elevator who would read your book. I think they could read it as-is, and your primary challenge might be marketing, but you should make a book so good that friends demand their friends read it, and one that Oprah could read. Your 2003 book is very close to that level!

Nontechnical suggestions

'I believe these are important for market success

Anyone who goes to the trouble to read such a book will want a proof. It needs things like adaptic optics. You can make such a book readable by everyone and I am doing it with my book.

Your 2003 book is almost there, but it sometimes has too much math inline:

"We could have the shipping capacity for space ships from 46 tons to the 200 ton ribbon to the 116 ships on the 500 ton ribbon if we stay within the FLP traffic size climbers; and up to 350 ton ships using max ribbon limit"

Two problems with above: 1. That sentence has no new information. 2. The idea of using the max ribbon limit instead of using FLP is bad and you shouldn't advocate it throughout the book. You should discuss this idea in your book as it is an interesting concept, then assume it will be implemented as you suggest throughout the rest.

Technical suggestions

I'm not the expert, but these are my considered opinions

I propose a 100 ton daily payload elevator. 10 tons a day is not worth it. Focus on powers of 10: 1, 10, 100.

We should build the two ribbons 100% in parallel. We could even build 3 in case one of them doesn't make it.

You need to solve the 200 mph situation, or have a solution for humans.

What about the space station and the moon station? Also, we need something that takes 1 week to 1 month to go to Mars.

You need to think about whether we really need atoms from other asteroids in the form of knives. Are we really running out of atoms here? With carbon nanotubes replacing steel, that will free up lots of iron.

You need something near land, a big electricity grid, etc. Pick as close to land as possible.

Some of these things are hard to get right. I might say no laser power beaming to earth, but it would provide energy for the moonbase. It might end up being the reverse. Don't go to deep on things that aren't core to your case.